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Poster: Jim F Date: Dec 26, 2010 4:25am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 12/4/73

That's always kinda made me wistful...how late shows used to go on through the 70's. Then there were the Winterland and Fillmore East marathons. Boston 73 had a similar late arrival like 12/4, yet they still must have played till pretty late. Of course in the earlier days of the clubs and theaters, late running shows were the norm. But as we got into the modern era, showtimes are always pretty early and done by 11.

Actually that's one little factoid I've never studied much, showtime starts/lengths over the years. When I think back to all those 4 hour shows and such I figure for the most part they had to have started pretty early. I can't see a show at a local sports stadium going on until 1 or 2 am. Or was it the norm for the average show to go on until well after midnight? In our modern era (last 20-30 years) it seems like shows tended to start earlier and end earlier than they did until sometime in the late 70's or early 80's? I should research this more.

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Poster: Reade Date: Dec 26, 2010 7:56am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 12/4/73

What I think I read about 11/30/73 years ago is they weren't so much late on that date as unaware a gig was scheduled. It wasn't till they hit Boston, or at least the Music Hall to sound check, that they learned they were due to perform on the 30th. Amazing that as late in the game as this date they could still have these early-era type mixups on when and/or where they were scheduled to play.
Then of course in true Dead fashion the gig, despite it's late start as all waited around for the crew to set the stage up, ends up geting enshrined as a commercial release along with 12/2 from the same venue a coupla nights later.

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Poster: elkdog Date: Dec 27, 2010 6:18am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 12/4/73

They opened with Morning Dew. If there's a better way to say "our bad, let's make up for lost time," I think that's it. And then HCS>WRS>Dark Star Jam>Eyes in the second set. Talk about recovering from a misstep! Plus, I've always loved the tone of DP14- I was immediately struck by the warmth of the recording when I bought it years ago.